Post by PopeADope on Jul 13, 2016 23:35:00 GMT
Barak Obama was right. ISIS shouldn't even be called Islamic. They hijacked a peaceful Religion.
Take a look at these wonderful quotes from the Religion of peace and the prophet himself:
Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.” Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad’s men because he insulted Islam. .
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
Ibn Ishaq: 327 – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
Ibn Ishaq: 990 – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone’s head while screaming ‘Allah Akbar!’ is a modern custom, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.
Ibn Ishaq: 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Muhammad’s instructions to his men
There is a good case to be made that the textual context of a few verses is defensive war...yet not all verses are suggestive of that, and Historically, Muhammed and Islam was extremely aggressive and constantly siezing as much land as possible including the invasion of Europe. So, because the Koran makes statements that indicate a verse implies defensive war, other verses do not make that distinction, and even worse, Islamic History is one of aggression, conquest, and oppression from it's foundation until now.
Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.
Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.” If Allah wants non-muslims punished, what's wrong with following the example of Muhammad and exercising God's desire to have them punished in this life"
Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”. This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity
Quran (4:89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”
Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-” This passage criticizes “peaceful” Muslims.
Quran (4:104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…”
Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”
So tell me...how is ISIS not justified (in the Koran) in their cruelty of infidels?
Okay Please enlighten me...If they should not be murdered , crucified, and dismembered, why did the author of the Koran say such a thing if He didn't desire it???
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Why not just kill people quickly. Why did Muhammad speak so much of torture, humiliation, and mutilation, and then commit those acts if He wasn't a hateful man??? Please answer.
Quran (8:15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.” Okay...so, those who turn the other Cheek like Ghandi or Jesus "incur the wrath of Allah??"
A defensive battle? The Meccans wereaacting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad’s intention to destroy their idols (which he did) and establish Islam by force (which he did and millions of Muslims continue to do more than members of any other sect.). Hence the critical part of most violent verses is not self-defense but is to fight until “religion is only for Allah.” According to Ibn Ishaq (324), Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that “Allah must have no rivals.”
Quran (8:59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah’s Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.
Quran (8:65) – “O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight…”
Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.” According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam.
Quran (9:14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace…” Once again, the way Allah wishes to punnish them is by "your hands". What's wrong with doing what Allah desires? ISIS follows the Koran.
the Koran and early Islamic writtings repeatedly Insults,dehumanizes, and degrades those who reject Islam. The Koran referrs to Jews and Idolators as apes and swine.
Trying to ignore these verses and claim the Koran doesn't incite violence and bigotry is like trying to make such excuses for Adolf Hitler or denying the Holocaust. It is completely irrational and denying what is blatantly obvious and documented
Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”
Quran (18:65-81) – This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story, which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source, tells of Moses encountering a man with “special knowledge” who does things which don’t seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would “grieve” his parents by “disobedience and ingratitude.” He was killed so that Allah could provide them a ‘better’ son.
Quran (33:60-62) – “If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.
Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter.” This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered “merciless” and “horrible murder” in other translations)
Quran (47:3-4) – “Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similtudes. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,” Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn’t do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.
Those who kill pass the test. “But if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.”
Quran (47:35) – “Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost
Quran (48:17) – “There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom.” If jihad was only suppossed to be an inner struggle and not literal war, why are the blind and lame exempt. Obviously when the Koran uses the word Jihad it is a literal war against non-muslims
Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves” Islam is not about treating everyone equally. Many of the verses on love and charity apply to fellow Muslims. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.
If Jihad was suppossed to be primarily an inner battle to be a righteous person, why is there so many verses about fighting and degrading and even torturing non-muslims
From the Hadith:
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.” Oh...yes....there's no antisemitism there. Surely this verse never motivated a Muslim to want to kill Jews....Adolf Hitler of the 7th century.
Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).” In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy.
Bukhari (52:220) – Allah’s Apostle said… ‘I have been made victorious with terror’ (MUHAMMAD WAS AN OBVIOUS TERRORIST! Do any of the non Muslims here wish to explain how he was Not??)
Abu Dawud (14:2526) – The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, “There is no god but Allah” and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight" My isn't that a true prophecy
Abu Dawud (14:2527) – The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent (Necessary responsibility) on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious
Muslim (1:33) – the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah
Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah
Muslim (1:149) – “Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause…”
Now you all read those verses, hadiths, or documents on the life of Muhammad, and leave it up to you whether you wish to exercise the common sense it takes to realize that the life of Muhammad, the Koran, and the example and writtings of early Muslims incites people to hate and violence.
Surely there is no correlation between such hateful, intolerant calls to violence and bigotry and the fact that Islam is responsible for far more violence in our world than any other religion. Anyone keep up on 21st century History?...Jihad in Syria and Iraq, Terrorism in France, America, Denmark, Spain, Egypt , Turkey, Bangladesh, Sudan, Libya"rape epidemic" arises out of Islamic immigration, jihad and barbaric dictatorship in Afghanistan, Saudi-arabia still living like they're in the dark ages, War and terrorism in Somalia daily, War in Nigeria, War in Congo, suicide bombers, car bombers, genocide against Christians, crucifixions, beheadings, sex-slavery, burning infidels,....always going on daily somewhere in the world....
....Oh yes....how often does this behavior in the name of Religion take place from non-muslims? Is there a non-Islamic Government that does this?? please tell me? If all Governments on earth that enforce such Religious intolerance are Muslim, perhaps, PERHAPS there is a correlation between the violence in the Koran and life of Muhammad and the harm Islam is doing to our world with these cowardly atrocities.
FROM THE HADITH OF SAHIH BUKHARI (2)
Volume 1, #234
Narrated Abu Qilaba:
He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron. They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them."
Take a look at these wonderful quotes from the Religion of peace and the prophet himself:
Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.” Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad’s men because he insulted Islam. .
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
Ibn Ishaq: 327 – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
Ibn Ishaq: 990 – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone’s head while screaming ‘Allah Akbar!’ is a modern custom, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.
Ibn Ishaq: 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Muhammad’s instructions to his men
There is a good case to be made that the textual context of a few verses is defensive war...yet not all verses are suggestive of that, and Historically, Muhammed and Islam was extremely aggressive and constantly siezing as much land as possible including the invasion of Europe. So, because the Koran makes statements that indicate a verse implies defensive war, other verses do not make that distinction, and even worse, Islamic History is one of aggression, conquest, and oppression from it's foundation until now.
Quran (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.
Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.” If Allah wants non-muslims punished, what's wrong with following the example of Muhammad and exercising God's desire to have them punished in this life"
Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”. This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity
Quran (4:89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”
Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-” This passage criticizes “peaceful” Muslims.
Quran (4:104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…”
Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”
So tell me...how is ISIS not justified (in the Koran) in their cruelty of infidels?
Okay Please enlighten me...If they should not be murdered , crucified, and dismembered, why did the author of the Koran say such a thing if He didn't desire it???
Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Why not just kill people quickly. Why did Muhammad speak so much of torture, humiliation, and mutilation, and then commit those acts if He wasn't a hateful man??? Please answer.
Quran (8:15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey’s end.” Okay...so, those who turn the other Cheek like Ghandi or Jesus "incur the wrath of Allah??"
A defensive battle? The Meccans wereaacting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad’s intention to destroy their idols (which he did) and establish Islam by force (which he did and millions of Muslims continue to do more than members of any other sect.). Hence the critical part of most violent verses is not self-defense but is to fight until “religion is only for Allah.” According to Ibn Ishaq (324), Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that “Allah must have no rivals.”
Quran (8:59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah’s Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.
Quran (8:65) – “O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight…”
Quran (9:5) – “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.” According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam.
Quran (9:14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace…” Once again, the way Allah wishes to punnish them is by "your hands". What's wrong with doing what Allah desires? ISIS follows the Koran.
the Koran and early Islamic writtings repeatedly Insults,dehumanizes, and degrades those who reject Islam. The Koran referrs to Jews and Idolators as apes and swine.
Trying to ignore these verses and claim the Koran doesn't incite violence and bigotry is like trying to make such excuses for Adolf Hitler or denying the Holocaust. It is completely irrational and denying what is blatantly obvious and documented
Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”
Quran (18:65-81) – This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story, which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source, tells of Moses encountering a man with “special knowledge” who does things which don’t seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would “grieve” his parents by “disobedience and ingratitude.” He was killed so that Allah could provide them a ‘better’ son.
Quran (33:60-62) – “If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.
Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter.” This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered “merciless” and “horrible murder” in other translations)
Quran (47:3-4) – “Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similtudes. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,” Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn’t do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.
Those who kill pass the test. “But if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.”
Quran (47:35) – “Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost
Quran (48:17) – “There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom.” If jihad was only suppossed to be an inner struggle and not literal war, why are the blind and lame exempt. Obviously when the Koran uses the word Jihad it is a literal war against non-muslims
Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves” Islam is not about treating everyone equally. Many of the verses on love and charity apply to fellow Muslims. There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.
If Jihad was suppossed to be primarily an inner battle to be a righteous person, why is there so many verses about fighting and degrading and even torturing non-muslims
From the Hadith:
Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.” Oh...yes....there's no antisemitism there. Surely this verse never motivated a Muslim to want to kill Jews....Adolf Hitler of the 7th century.
Bukhari (52:256) – The Prophet… was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, “They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans).” In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy.
Bukhari (52:220) – Allah’s Apostle said… ‘I have been made victorious with terror’ (MUHAMMAD WAS AN OBVIOUS TERRORIST! Do any of the non Muslims here wish to explain how he was Not??)
Abu Dawud (14:2526) – The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, “There is no god but Allah” and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight" My isn't that a true prophecy
Abu Dawud (14:2527) – The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent (Necessary responsibility) on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious
Muslim (1:33) – the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah
Bukhari (8:387) – Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah
Muslim (1:149) – “Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause…”
Now you all read those verses, hadiths, or documents on the life of Muhammad, and leave it up to you whether you wish to exercise the common sense it takes to realize that the life of Muhammad, the Koran, and the example and writtings of early Muslims incites people to hate and violence.
Surely there is no correlation between such hateful, intolerant calls to violence and bigotry and the fact that Islam is responsible for far more violence in our world than any other religion. Anyone keep up on 21st century History?...Jihad in Syria and Iraq, Terrorism in France, America, Denmark, Spain, Egypt , Turkey, Bangladesh, Sudan, Libya"rape epidemic" arises out of Islamic immigration, jihad and barbaric dictatorship in Afghanistan, Saudi-arabia still living like they're in the dark ages, War and terrorism in Somalia daily, War in Nigeria, War in Congo, suicide bombers, car bombers, genocide against Christians, crucifixions, beheadings, sex-slavery, burning infidels,....always going on daily somewhere in the world....
....Oh yes....how often does this behavior in the name of Religion take place from non-muslims? Is there a non-Islamic Government that does this?? please tell me? If all Governments on earth that enforce such Religious intolerance are Muslim, perhaps, PERHAPS there is a correlation between the violence in the Koran and life of Muhammad and the harm Islam is doing to our world with these cowardly atrocities.
FROM THE HADITH OF SAHIH BUKHARI (2)
Volume 1, #234
Narrated Abu Qilaba:
He then ordered to cut their hands and feet (and it was done), and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron. They were put in 'Al-Harra' and when they asked for water, no water was given to them."
